I remember the first time I heard of Roger Bannister. It was years ago, 8th or 9th grade, and I was watching some documentary on basketball on TV and on the bottom of the screen facts would scroll across. One of these facts said: "On May 6, 1954, Roger Bannister became the first man to run a mile." I thought, "What? That can't be right... even I can run a mile." Then the screen continued "...in under four minutes." At that point, I thought "WHOA! WOAH! WHOA! SERIOUSLY!?"
As I grew older, I also grew more and more into running. Not only the science of it, but the history. I learned more of the great milers: El Guerrouj, Aouita, Ovett, Coe, Ryun, and Keino. Guys who had set world records, won Olympics medals, done great things. But I had never known that much about Bannister. I only knew that he had run a 3:59.4 (ON CINDER?!) back in the 50's, and that was pretty much it. I found an old video of it online. It was of poor quality, but from the start I saw that the whole thing was sort of staged and almost seemed unspectacular.
At the end of sophomore year, my coach let me borrow a newly purchased copy of Neal Bascomb's The Perfect Mile. I loved the book and its description, how it told the stories of three of the world's greatest milers: Landy, Bannister, Santee. The book was written beautifully and thoroughly, even giving much of the historical background. I came away from this book knowing that Roger Bannister was amazing, having run a four-minute mile while going through medical school. I knew John Landy was a hard worker, a good front runner, but I thought Bannister seemed to work pretty hard, too.
It is with these misconceptions that I opened up my copy of The Four-Minute Mile, an autobiography by Roger Bannister written in 1955, only a year after his great feat. I guess I had always known about the idea of amateurism. The idea of being a Renaissance man. Good at everything, yet effortless in all of his endeavors. Exercise and sport were not to be taken too seriously. Until reading the autobiography, however, I never fully understood the extent at which some people understood it. Bannister, as he says, would sometimes talk to other runners during races, acting positive and effortless in an effort to break their spirits (I hate guys like that, the ones that talk during races). Of it he says, "Sometimes I think it is a pity that it is not possible to improve the situation in track races by appropriate comments between the runners. There is a happy social atmosphere about cross-country running not found on the track (80)."
I guess I soon found out how seriously Bannister took amateurism. His training regimen was fairly light compared to these days, and it seemed that he only broke 50 miles a week once during his training. His greatest fear at many points was of overtraining, of burn out, and so he always, always took things easy.
Of running a 4:24.6 mile at the age of eighteen, and also noting that Roger Dunkley ran a 4:12.8 at the same age he says, "I am not so sure tha training of the intensity reuquired to produce such a remarkable time is wise at that age (44)."
It seemed that at many times, he would become tired of training to much and take extended breaks. As these breaks ended he still might race anyways. Running "off of his best" he would be disappointed, but then rationalize it as being okay cause he hadn't been training. Of running a 4:14.2 he first says "I felt very humbled (74)," but then goes on to say " The amazing discovery of the afernoon twas that I had taken no exercise for two months and could still run a mile three seconds slower than my best time." Seriously, if thats not natural talent, then what is?!?!?!?
At some point, he stepped up his training in preparation for Helsinki. He was "running about 5-10 miles a session, and was running about five days a week (107)," usually doing fartleks. After the Helsinki disappointment, he again stepped up his training, now with the addition of a 10x440 workout with 2 minutes recovery.
I guess what gets to me the most about Bannister wasn't that he didn't work (because he certainly did), but he was afraid of finding his limit. Constantly worried about burning himself out for later in life, he just didn't want to push the mileage or intensity. I mean, I guess he still found an upper limit in his 10x440 workout when him and the other guys ceased to progress, but I don't think that staleness was caused by too much training, I think it was caused by too much of the same training. It's like the principle of diminishing return. You don't go out each season and just run the same workout again and again until you get fast, you have to force your body to make adaptations.
When Bannister finally met John Landy in Empire Games, he finally had to chance to see that his training was totally inadequate. Of John Landy he said:
On one occasion he ran a 4 minute 13 second mile just to warm up, and followed it with a 3/4 mile in 2 minutes 59 seconds. He apeared to have an insatiable appetite for interval running. Before I arrived he had run ten quarter-miles each in 58 seconds, with a 1 1/2 minute recovery interval in between each... It was incomparably superior to the best I had ever done - ten quarters in 60 seconds each with a full two minutes' interval in between each. He ran twice as many 220-yard dashes as I could manage, and in an average time several seconds faster. Until this time I had no first hand experience of the 'hard work' school of training. It made my own preparation seem mot inadquate. When I felt depressed, however, I reminded myself that my training had been good enough to run a four-minute mile when conditions were far from ideal, and was content to leave it at that.
To me, this just screams "Oh, I was able to get away with much less training because I was so much more talented!!!"
But in the end, in our sport, in running, there are no awards for "hardest worker" in the race, no "'gutsiest" award, no "I ran the most miles and spent the most time," award. It all comes down to who runs the fastest. That's who gets the glory.
Respect, however, is a different issue. I don't just respect the guys who run the fastest. I mean, I knew a lot of guys in high school that could run 4:25, 4:30 for 1600, or 1:56 for 800. Some of these guys, however, I just had no respect for. These were the guys that didn't care about running. They'd play soccer during cross country season, football during track season. I'd hear stories about them skipping practices, missing meets. They'd be the ones at the check in area whining about how much their calves hurt, about how much they hated running. Then they'd go out there an run a 4:26 and win by 80 meters. Sure, they were faster than me, but there was no respect.
I guess that's why Prefontaine is so well respected. Looking at his times, he's not even anything special anymore. Guys destory his PR's these days so easily. But in a sense, it's what he did and how he ran that earned people's respect. Clearly, there's something more to respect than just the times and speed. [but as an aside, I don't give Prefontaine that much respect either]
So I acknowledge that what Bannister did was great. 3:59.4 on May 6th, and then defeating John Landy at the Empire Games. He was also in medical school, pursing his desire to become a doctor, something that seems almost impossibly difficult. But in the end I feel that his success came not out of work, but talent. Furthermore, it disturbs me to see his how content he became after that 1954 season. I guess I have always respected the guys the most that have tried to get the most out of themselves. El G set his world record in 1999, but he didn't retire until years later, when he had secured his gold medals. It disturbs me to see Bannister simply walk away from athletics. He ran the time at a young age, and I certainly believe he could have run sub 3:55 with a few more years. But instead, he was satisfied. He moved on with life. I guess it's a great example of how there's more to life than running, but to know that he took his running so casually, so nonchalantly, disturbs me so much.
So, Mr. Bannister, I give you credit. You ran well, ran moderately hard, and worked hard in school, but I still find your efforts less than inspiring.
John Landy rocks.
p.s. none of this is to say I am better than roger bannister. in fact, i will unlikely ever be as good as he is. he is a legend among men, but among the list of great middle distance and distance runners, i rank him very low.
Wednesday, July 25, 2007
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Wow 4:14 off no training. I once ran a 1600m on 2 weeks of training junior year in 5:57. After that my HS coach advised me never to run the mile.
Kangway, I think your real problem with Bannister is that he doesn't fit into your mold of what it means to be an athlete. This is a trend I've noticed with both you and Megumi (Garrett is catching on, to). It's the "running must be the most important part of my life or else doing it is meaningless" thing.
While this may be true for some of us, I feel it's important to appreciate other perspectives.
Bannister, like Mark's Mozart example, was born with crazy talent. But, this does not give him some holier-than-thou responsibility in his life to dedicate himself to running. He chose to dedicate his time to medicine, which is not some frivolty; his reputation in the medical community is as stellar as his carrer in running.
Just as being blessed with a great deal of talent doesn't obligate you to train hard to "reach your potential", *not* being blessed with talent doens't mean that you don't have the right to train hard anyways!
I just want to communicate that there's people with a broad range of levels of dedication, talent, and ability which I think should be considered respectable runners. I respect Bannister for recognizing his own talent and putting it to use in a way that fit into the life that HE chose, regardless of what he could have been with more training. He saw running differently than we might have liked him to, but that's what was right for him. At least he still got out there.
In the same vein, while I enjoy a great deal of snobbery in both running and cycling, I still resent people that are snobby towards me. I'm not fast, and when I see some skinny fast chick smirk at me at a race or on the road, it hurts. I want to say, "Even though I'm not fast, I'm valid!" So, people that jog with their iPods just to keep the pounds off, they're runners. Freds on bikes? They may be Freds, but at least they get out there. Bannister? He could have been faster, but he was damn fast and still got out there.
Yes. Okay. In a way you're right. I said in the previous post basically that I think by today's standards of professionalism he failed miserably at being "an athlete" but he was an ideal amateur athlete.
I acknowledge that if you're given a gift, an extreme talent, you in no way have to use it. But in so many ways it hurts to watch someone try less than their best in something and be so good.
You're right that with Bannister he was certainly given two gifts: running and medicine, and in the end I suppose he could would have to choose one. And I guess that's why he gets some respect (as a human being).
I mean, certainly you can draw lines. There can be terrible athletes that are great people.
Still, Bannister still ranks pretty low on my "all time greatest athletes list," but he'll get some credit for being knighted for work in neurology.
About your last note on the validity of people. What gives people validity in my mind is if they try. I acknowledge, if there's some sorority girl out running with her iPod 7 times a week an hour at a time just trying to burn off the booze and pizza she's been having before she bangs fifty guys, I mean, she's trying!!! At least she's running with a purpose!
I think that's the idea, that you have to have purpose somewhere, and you have to be trying to do something!
There used to be guys on my cross country team that would run 21 minutes who I thought were more valid than the guys I was running with in the 16's and 17's. Simply because I hated how people willingly did cross country, then they show up at 6:30am for practice and say "I dont want to be here, I hate it. Why do we have to be here this early. Let's not run!" I mean, if you don't want to be here then get the fuck off the team!!!
I guess that's not exactly the point. I guess the point was back to how much it hurts to watch something like that.
I mean, okay, think about it Katherine. I mean, the point isn't that Bannister gets no credit from me, it's that he just doesn't get a lot. He's not high and mighty like everyone thinks he is! I swear!
I mean, in my mind, it's not that your life has to be totally dedicated towards it, it's just that you have to care more than a little. When success comes so easily to some people, then they stop so early, that's when I feel I can't give them too much credit. Sure, at least they got out there and did it, but I mean, what can you do.
Here is my example: Yezdan. That boy has TALENT FLOWING THROUGH HIM. But he just doesn't care. And in so many ways I just can't give him respect at all. You may say "at least he gets out there," but whatever. I don't care about him at all.
And it's not that it has to totally consume you either! That's not it at all. Seriously. I mean, I have tons of respect for those weekend warriors. Guys who get out there five times a week, for a run, to stay in shape, to see how fit they are. My neighbors across the street, I've respected him for years. The guy gets out there three to four times a week, and runs in the burning heat of the day. Maybe not the fastest guy, but he gets out there!
It's just that they show dedication, and that they enjoy something.
I mean, I think I just said why I'm irked by Bannister. But at the end of his book he talks about how training more than he did has yet to show better results on race day! I think that would definitely be attributed to racing styles and tactics, because I absolutely certain that Landy could have beaten Bannister (do not forget when he was defeated he had also cut his foot open a few days earlier on a flash bulb).
Anyway, I'm so lost in thought right now I can't make a clear argument.
Let me just say, my friend told me the distance coach at Rice, Jon Warren, also a sub-4;00 miler, once said "If I had trained like Roger Bannister I never would have broken four. I would have run like 4:09 or something."
Okay, I think I understand better now. It's certainly a shame to see people like {Yezdan, Bannister...} do so well when you know they could do even better.
And man, I gotta read Bannister's book now. Does anyone in LA have a copy? I can't believe he'd say that training harder/more wouldn't have made him faster. That's a crock of bull. Maybe what he means is, for *him* (Bannister), it wouldn't have made him faster. Which might be true; wasn't his whole schtick that he was just super, duper competitive? The man loved to win. Maybe that's why he kept going to break 4 but stopped after Commonwealth; he felt he'd had a say in the whole sub-4-beat-Landy-at-Commonwealth thing and wanted to quit while he could still have the last word.
katherine:
i read ian's copy of the book, check with him to see if i ever bothered to give it back
aside from the philosophical points of view on bannister, i have this to say regarding the conversation:
i think the assumption that bannister would necessarily have run much faster if he had trained harder is dubious. it is not necessarily the case that more training and harder training results in better racing.
the body's response to exercise is complicated. modeling physiological adaptations in response to training is similar to the problem of modeling climate change in response to government policy.
in both, there are many relevant variables, some of which can be controlled (quantity and quality of training, diet, sleep, training environment etc. || carbon emissions, aerosol emissions, deforestation, etc.) and some of which cannot (genetics (which counts as many variables, not one giant "talent" variable) || solar flux, quantity of oceans, geologic inputs)
the response of one target variable (time to race one mile versus average temperature of the planet) to any single other variable (training miles per week || quantity of carbon emission) is a function of all those other variables simultaneously, all of which interact with each other. this leads to a state of "classical ignorance", where even if the end result were in principle knowable, the system is far too complicated to be solved exactly. any solution is an educated (to varying degrees) guess.
then there are stochastic elements (sickness, unexpected injury, personal life || volcanic eruptions, meteor impacts, nuclear meltdowns) which cannot be completely accounted for.
the end result is that while we may be able to find some rules that in general we think are true (running more miles = faster race time || outputting more carbon = hotter temperatures), they don't have to hold, and in fact you can almost always find exceptions
my conclusion is that it is preposterous to claim to know with certainty the way in which bannister ought to have trained, just as it is preposterous for scientists to claim with certainty they know what government policies will lead to the most-desirable climate
Mark, you're absolutely right.
Reading your post reminded me of all those guys that said "Oh, Bannister today clearly could run 3:48." It's just not something you can necessarily say is true.
However, I think we all (or at least myself and at least few others), sometimes like to speculate whether guys like Bannister could have run faster (or other what if situations. Like, what if Pre didn't die and ran the '76 Olympics).
I think, however, it's possible to look back at history at the facts, and try to deduce some information.
I mean, okay, I admit that we cannot say "he 100% could have," but we can say we have a pretty good guess. Just like with science, it seems that we can almost never quite say "this is absolutely the case," rather it's just a series of pretty good guesses that fits all of the evidence that we have.
I mean, say you are a college coach and one of your transfer milers just ran 3:59. He's done nothing by 10x400m in 60s with 2 minutes of rest, and other fartlek workouts, running anywhere from 25-50 miles a week. Pretend he's an Engineer a busy guy. I mean, it's impossible for you to say as a college coach that "oh yeah, this guy definitely could have run 3:55 last year," but if you interview the guy carefully, understand how he felt during different races, under different stresses, then we can make a pretty good guess about things.
I mean, okay. Mark, when I first found out who you were, of course I dug through ideotrope to find Ian's middle distance workouts to see what you were running. I found old race results, and specfically I looked at your log.
When I looked at your log and saw those 98 mile weeks, those comments about not being able to really put races together, but still doing amazing tempo runs, I thought "Oh man, this looks like overtraining to me."
Of course I would then reasonably try to assume that if you had been a little more conservative in your mileage, you probably could have run a little faster. But of course, we cannot say with certainty.
I guess what I'm saying is that looking at the facts and comments made by Bannister about his races, I am sort of drawing my own conclusions.
Of course you are right that it is preposterous to absolute certainty, but can't we make at least a good guess?
guessing reminds me of all my physics tests
And we all know how much you love physics! So it must be okay!
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